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As far as Original vs Clone prices, youre dealing with a couple of things. One is cost of production in the states vs china. Production in the USA overall is far more expensive due to our relatively recent tenancy to out source. Secondly, they tend to be limited runs (intended or not is irrelevant) which allows them to charge a premium. Think of Ferrari vs GT 500 or Corvette. Thirdly, the thought of something US made or at least localish ( IE, not China) tends to demand higher prices in general, with the combination of the first two points. there are nothing wrong with clones. They use the same materials and look the same. Maybe they dont use the highest quality steel or what have you, and may have a bit more voltage drop, but as someone who isnt a "connoisseur" of mech mods, youll likely not find much of a difference between the two. Just find something you like, and something that your wallet can agree with, in terms of mods. Batteries are a whole different animal. Dont skimp, and you really have no reason to. They arent expensive. Also get a good charger, they can be pricey, relative to their function, but it will be worth it.

Sweet setup. Don't worry most everyone on VT is hooked. It comes with the territory.

Higher pg percentages will give a harsh throat hit, and grailhunter is correct in that the EVOD will be far more effective at producing a vapor than your BLU's did.... totally different Voltage, Wattage, and coil (both in resistance and design). I'm guessing you're using a 80/20 pg/vg ratio, or possibly even higher... Nicotine (or Menthol) may be a factor as well, although it sounds more like your issue is pg. Now that you have a "better" system... I'd try juices in the 70/30 range, and the EVOD coils wick 50/50 juices fairly well as long as you give it a few seconds between hits, lol. I think you'll be more pleased with the throat-hit if you use a juice with a lower pg%.

We are just having some fun, I have entertained my kids with a few vape tricks. Most of us use vaping to get off analogs are just not into the tricks. Don't take it personal.

Very elegantly put Heldar! I agree! Batteries? Get some Sony VTC5's. Chargers can be a bit debatable as far as brand. I personally use the Efest luc v4 charger and love it. But others here may have a different suggestion for you.

And it sucks even more when you get a flame up from the cotton flash firing.

This is where I work.

I bought a few of these today. They work really well for a cheap Atty holder. You can get them at Dollar Tree for $1ea.

Lol...sooo much I could say but the moth man will shut up

I know it seems an odd combination, but I've always enjoyed some of the finer enjoyments in life. I loved my humidor in the 90's and soon became a craft beer lover in the late 90's. Going to small scale chef run and owned food joints in the 2k's. I was taught many of the aspects of moonshine making recently. Don't get me wrong as I just gave up my Copenhagen last year for vaping, I'm pretty much considered a red neck. Just one who enjoys trying new stuff and finding all the great things in life. But with a flat top and covered in tattoos and dressed in jeans and a t-shirt. It started 8 months ago at a small town high end restaurant which was suprising as he'll due to the good food and craft beer. I was drinking an ipa of some sort and the guy next to me orders a shot of Redbreast Irish whiskey. Altho at the time I didn't even know what Scotch was but remembering hearing all my life "Johnny Walker" Scotch sucked. This shot changed at how I looked at bottled liquor. It was about 10 sips of heaven, and almost $10 a shot. So smooth,flavors of heaven and an aftertaste the gingerly lingered almost not long enough. Due to income, or lack there of I've had to tread lightly. I later bought a pint of Glinlivet 12yo. It was good, but didn't set my world on fire. Redbreast 12yo is $65 hear. I wanted it, but at the moment I'm hung on the astigmatism of "Scotch" . I knew the Redbreast tasted as good as real breast but if I was gonna spend that kind of money I knew a few things from my moonshine days. No filtering, and cask strength would be the bomb. As I liked my shine right from the tap, not tempered too 100 proof. SOB! I just spilt a shot of what I'm drinking down the arm of my recliner! Ok, I just went all in, and bout a bottle of Glenlivit Nadurra 16yo that was bottled 2 years ago. Does that 2 years add to the aging process, and conceivably make it 18 yo? OMG, I can drink this sip by sip until I hit the bottom. I'll kick my own was if I do! This may be the BEST ANYTHING I ever drink as I normally have to buy my own and I can't ever afford anything more expensive. It is soo smooth and flavorful but the effects of its alchohol is almost Valium like. So warm and fuzzy and pairs with a great double IPA like nothing else.

Wasn't sure if this is the right place to post this Pulled the trigger today and added an emerald green Provari to the "pack" Loving it so far! Will try to attach a photo of my "babies". Guees I'm bonified hooked beyond help now

That sure is a pretty order you got there tron

Oh yeah man! I love the juice! I am just wiped out from the week. I actually skipped the gym and other stuff to come home and do the coil build

just wanna introduce myself. my name is dj, I've been using tanks and ego batteries and finally made the jump into mods. pretty cool stuff. glad I found this forum, looks like fun.

Yesterday I got a very nice package from Fadora Vapor! Very nice packaging, presentation and especially the glass bottles. I received a nice selection to try. I gave my buddy the apple cider and he cleaned out and reworked his kayfun. A very nice flavor. Mellow, smooth yet complex and flavorful. He likes it and I do too. It reminds me of a hot cider smell you get in the winter. I built a new coil just for the watermelon. IMG_20140605_182353 by Richstag, on Flickr I read that if you give a little space between your wraps it gives more surface area for the juice to cover on the coil. I gave it a try. Made a medium wick since this juice seems thin like it would wick well but at 1.0 ohm it will need to wick pretty well. IMG_20140605_182840 by Richstag, on Flickr I like the watermelon but just got to vaping it so I will give longer term impressions in the other section. I was surprised by the watermelon. I was expecting jolly rancher but its more of a natural watermelon flavor. It tastes like a mix between real watermelon but candy-ish if that makes sense. Thanks Compenstine! Oh, and very happy this fruity watermelon held up to the 1ohm coil. Running at 17.6watts on a fresh 18650.

Got this sweetness in the mail today. You rock Proetus.

Found Josh's Thread after posting this one

Bro I just read this. I also never knew about this app. What a handy thing to have. This will definitely come in handy when I get my 22, 24, and 26ga kanthal in without having to trial by error. Massive thumbs up. You just made my day. Thanks a bunch for bringing it up.

Phone lag I suppose, or Id10t user error.

Whooo, what a night! After a good plate of cheese I finally gave up the fight to stay awake. Earthling- it appears my spell check nailed me on your name above,sorry. I'll take a look at some of the Macallan's price wise, but something tells me it just won't be the same. I did add a splash of water and it did open up the flavors. It looks like 1/3 of my bottle was stolen while I slept, so I'll make my cat do security at night to keep the wino's away. At least now I know what to ask for at birthdays and Christmas. American liquors have NEVER impressed me, well Buffalo Trace's unaged white liquor was just as good as my shine I made. Other than that the flavors and smoothness are hard to reproduce. Sure I could try some some of the better American boozes, but I'm rather sure I'd have a collection of liquor I don't want to drink. Plain and simple, this Glenlivit Nadurro is magic in a bottle.

The Provari mini is the same as the standard Provari quality wise

Ive got an order of both 30 and 32 gauge coming, but doesnt look like it'll be here in time before I head out of state for two weeks. Ill have to fiddle with it when I get back, sadly.

I understand. For us it is things like that that gets the FDA and other anti vapeing peoples panties ruffled and crying that vendors are marketing to kids, trying to make it cool like they did with cigarettes years ago.. So, it is kind of a sore spot for many at the moment. Its hard to understand why someone would want to have the habit and get hooked on nic. I started smoking as a kid when it wasn't looked on as it is today. You may want to consider the nic free juice. But that is just advice. Given a choice I would rather see someone vape than smoke.

All the above^^^

Joshuab3687 - That's one very special bottle above what it is spirit wise. To drink from it will be put pure memories. EarthLink- I'll comment tommorow hopefully since my eyes are cursing me.

The K100 was my first mechanical mod and it's a great workhorse. This mod is the clone for the Empire Mod which is very hard to get, it's rarely in stock. For over six months I've been waiting to get an email saying they have some for sale but it hasn't come yet. The original Empire Mods go for around $160. I really like the Magneto for ease of use. It's also a little more slender and less heavy than the K100 using magnets rather than springs for the button. Like anything else you'll find good quality clones and badly made ones. The clones I have I'm very happy with their performance.

Yeah. I fly now and again. No problem. Put in carry on and send her thru! If you are gonna vape on the plain be descreet. I use 80/20 to limit the fog

Fuzzball from your pocket in the drip tip

When you get juice on your finger while driving and don't notice till you rub your eye because it itches.

Actually I am Irish, but not Scottish. By a long rooted tree somehow. 30 year old Scotch? That could justify an airline trip just to be there the day you crack it! Now I have an excuse to buy more expensive vape gear since most cost less than a great bottle of hooch.

I'm on my 3rd and last snifter tonight, that's what I call a double. Sadley half of one went down the arm of my recliner so I guess I poured some out for my homies. The Readbreast is about $60 here and is just an Irish Whiskey, Even tho names don't mean much except prestige many times. Id love to taste it side by side with this Nadurra. I'm normally a person who thinks a clone is just as good as an original, but I think Shenzhen couldn't reproduce anything like this. If you got news of ANY Scotch/Irish Whiskey at $20 a bottle that goes down like butter, relaxes like valium and acts like crack I'd love to hear that suggestion! I knew this was possible when I ran my last batch in NC thru my still with a corn,rye and malt with molasses and brown cane mash run slow threw a pot still, but it was unaged. At 130 proof it went down like butter. As I said I only ran it for my own drinking purposes. But this taste just like my stuffed if it had been aged in a cask.

I have a k100 and k101. Both are good mods. Mine have proven to be quite durable and take a good bit of abuse. They have a relatively low voltage drop. Not as good as full copper mods, but quite good for a cheap mod

Let er rip, Tater Chip! Er, Moth Man!

Dude, clones are fine. I have seen articles like that and I find its mostly bs. Know ohm law. Buy good batteries and chargers. Vape safe. If you can hold a mod and see how you like it in person. Personally I dont like the karmy k100 mod. Its cheaply made and for the money there are a lot better mods out there. Like the panzer black hawk, the ironman, and a few others can all be had for under 50 bucks.just read reviews on mods before buying. As for batteries, I use sony 18650. And efest 18500 and 188350 batteries. Sony are expensive but most can be gotten from amazon. Stick with sony or efest batteries. Stay away from surefire batteries. As for charger, the efest luc2 is what I use and love it. Others use the intellcore chargers. Also good but the efest has more for what I do and thats why I use it. Hope this helps

well to be honest im not getting off cigaretts. i just got out of rehab for a drug addiction and i need somthing you know?

Very cool Joe! This is where I work

I work on an oil rig in a section of the gulf of mexico called Eugene Island. About 100 miles of the coast of Louisiana. Here's the links to the videos. It's part 1-5. All tolled it's something like 2 hours and 48 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgNxfvg6OM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHVQVW2Jbo4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lRxmrwZhmE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WbbT4PIi2E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWYl6Yhsu1I Hope you enjoy it. I did. Mike from madvapes isn't as kooky as rip tripper but the videos are packed with info for folks like me just starting out.

Yes, I noticed it right off! You did good, Jerryjoe. That deserves a HUGE attaboy!

Love my Scotch... single-malt is best, IMO. You gotta find what you like best, whether it be $20/bottle of $120/bottle Personally I do love Macallan 18-yr old! Scotch, like Bourbon (or any whiskey) stops aging once it comes out of the barrel... so if it says 12 yrs old and was bottled in 2000, it's still just 12-yr old Scotch

Using my nemesis clone with igo W right now. About .53 dual coil and I only use sony vtc 5. Pretty good setup. Like an old chevy pickup truck. When I really want to get down though I pull out the v3tronix flip mod and brass monkee rda. It's the ferrari in the garage. They all drive you around the block, just about performance and looks beyond that.

Vapidor?

Thanks Joshua, didnt see that sub forum before.

Alright everybody it was a big day for me. I haven't been posting to much for a few days because I've been doing a bunch of research. Did you know they have a 5 part video on youtube about coil building that's almost 3 hours. Before I reveal my purchases let me say thank you to all of you that helped in one way or another in my decision making process. I specifically want to thank Tam, Ma,Comp and Charlie for their one on one attention. I feel I went into this well prepared. http://www.kidneypuncher.com/smoktech-omnitester/ http://www.kidneypuncher.com/ehpro-helios-clone-rba/ I also got: 28 gauge kanthal Pre-boiled organic cotton some "short pipe" coils for my evod style tank Tank stands Luger lock syringe and 20g needle (still haven't filled that damn davide mini) I'm going to the walmart or home depot down the street in a little bit to get a 2ml screwdriver set and a torch. Probably some needle nose pliers. And some dykes. Hey Tam did you see what item I put at the top of the list?

While temperature does have an effect on how the body absorbs anything, temperature of the vapor will have an effect, but less on the absorption rate, more on the delivery (volume). All things being equal, more vapor equates to more nicotine potentially aerosolized. The coil vaporizes the pg/vg/water to create a vapor-carrier to deliver nicotine in microscopic droplets (think, near-molecular-level). What determines absorption, once you inhale, is not the temperature, but rather the surface-area (mouth/throat/lungs) contacted by the vapor. A mouth-puff (not inhaled) will not deliver the same volume as a straight-draw-lung-hit. The longer you "hold" the hit also will increase the potential for full-absorbtion. Also, a "cold" hit which produces very little vapor will deliver less nicotine to the body than a "visible" vapor will. From the study I listed above, they were dealing with a tiny transdermal patch, delivering across 2.5 sq-in of skin. Vaporizing the nicotine produces a large dispersal of nicotine throughout the volume vapor, thus providing more potential for a larger surface-area to absorb it. Once nicotine is contained in the vapor, the body readily absorbs it. Heat has far less effect in this case, because you have increased the surface-area exponentially, and the membranes of your mouth/throat/lungs more readily absorb the nicotine for blood-delivery than does the tougher barrier of exterior skin! This is why vaping is so effective at nicotine delivery. The mechanism is similar to smoking...

22g dual @ .2ohms

quad coil on the Nimbus

I'm really digging this setup, and it looks proper together.

Simple dual micro 26g 8 wrap on a 5/64th bit. 0.41 ohm with cotton

NEXT!

They have great stuff over there on BootlegVapors! I'm for sure going to try the Caffeinated E-liquid and at least one flavor, probably a Blueberry. Great prices and selection, I'm ordering next week!