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Depends on if you are measuring "how much you go through" as opposed to "how the nicotine consumption compares" vs a cost comparison. Too many variables to answer the question to any degree of certainty. The only truly correct answer is "It Depends" to anything other than cost, and even then cost is different in different areas. A carton of analogs here range from $35 for generic to $45 for name brand where in NY or CA I am sure it is nearly or more than twice that.

It scares the HELL out of me. I just found this great instrument that actually keeps me from smoking and killing myself and there are people who are fighting to take it away and ban it. They don't care if we live or die. I wish I could use my Nursing status to help swing this thing in our direction but for now I do at least have the ability to carry the information I have learned about E-Cigs to my patients who are struggling to quit smoking because it is killing them.

Wow. It's getting ugly, fast. It's fascinating. The vaping issue could be the largest example of the attempt to quash a viable and clearly superior health product - let's face it, and call it what it is - vaping is largely a smoking cessation activity that is empirically miles ahead of any other device or therapy and, it is Successful! The ignorance is hard to believe. The evil is appalling.

I don't know if there are many people from york on this site, but I figured I'd let them, and anyone in the area that I stumbled across an e-cig shop. If anyone knows of any others in the area I'd love to know about them. This one is at Morning Star Market. I was really leery about it at first, it being at a basically a flea market, but I can tell that they have a decent selection of e-cigs, and accessories to go with them. Frankly I was amazed that this place was 2 minutes from my house, and actually had good stuff, and great service. I baught a 510 off of the guy this past weekend, and he spent about an hour talking to me about it, and all of the future options I have to with it. He didn't even want me to leave until he got it setup for me, and made sure it all worked well, and that I was satisfied. when I told him that I wasn't sure about the taste coming from the tank, he did some trouble shooting with me, ( he also explained that this is common with tanks), He then gave me an empty low resistance cart for it, and mouth piece, so that I could try that out, and see what I liked better for free. I know these arent that expensive, but the service was great none the less. If anyone is in the area and isn't sure where this place is, let me know, and I'll help you out. He vape's himself, and loves getting the latest toys to try, and if he likes them they'll be on the shelf. He is all about repeat business, so I feel really good about doing business there. You will find lower prices online, but if your from the area, you pobably won't get the same service, and if you're new to the vaping thing, like I relatively am, you can get your hands on some stuff, get a lot of questions answered( he loves answering questions), and if you aren't sure then. He's got some decent 510 disposables that aren't really that bad, for 12 bucks. Yes the Joye ego systems, and others nicer systems he has there will be better, but just to try it out 12 bucks isn't bad. Hope this helps someone out in my area. Happy Vaping.

EU is planning breach of constitution(s) The following press release was sent out by the German Vapers association IG-ED e.V. in German on Dec. 1st, 2013 and can be found in German here: http://ig-ed.org/2013/12/eu-kommission-plant-verfassungsbruch-oder-wie-demokratie-zur-posse-verkommt/ I just finished the translation for international communities -- for your info or, if you want to circulate it or bring it to the attention of your national press, fine, go ahead. Best regards, Hazel ~~~~~~~~ EU is planning breach of the constitution Or: how democracy degenerates ever more into a farce A recently leaked EU commission document of unverified origin shows that the EU commission plans to curb the democratic right to free speech in a coup de main at the next trialogue meetings between 3rd and 16th December. What is it about? Over the last 2 years, the EU has been working on a revision of the tobacco products directive (TPD2). At the recommendation of the WHO framework of the tobacco control (FCTC) they now also want to regulate the e-cigarette within the tobacco directive; in order to bring the consumption under the same regulations control mechanisms which previously already have been applied to the consumption of tobacco and to forbid them step by step. Thus, a non-tobacco containing product, which hasnt been approved as a medical product, shall be treated in a tobacco directive more restrictively than the tobacco product itself though it doesnt even contain any tobacco. However, this contradiction doesnt bar the EU Commission from sticking to their plans. The e-cigarette is a new product, widely unknown to the Members of European Parliament, and before it can even develop any noteworthy market potential, one strives to rather prohibit them on the quiet with the help of deceptive media campaigns and debatable statements of experts, the latter often being merely self-appointed. What they didnt envisage though were well-informed, partly scientifically experienced, and convinced users of the e-cigarette (generally known as vapers), who had a first-hand experience of the positive effects of the switch from tobacco to e-cigarettes. They couldnt put anything over on them; moreover those users ensured popularity, technical progress, scientific researches and finally initialized a transboundary consumer initiative against the prohibition efforts. As a consequence, the European Parliament contradicts the plans of the EU-Commission and leaves the e-cigarette within the tobacco directive TPD2 wrongly so, and contrary to the distinct advice of JURI, the European Legal Committee as a non-tobacco product, however also decides for a moderate regulation which the vapers could have accepted for the time being, even though gnashing their teeth. As the Parliament has to find an agreement with both the European Commission and the Council, the Commission engineers a new scheme: in a very predictive paragraph, the citizen shall be deterred in the future to gather their own information, to build pan-European information channels or even, to use existing ones. Under the cloak of the ban on advertising, the Commission claims brazenly to remove the right to free information as well as the freedom of speech! In the new claims regarding the TPD2 and hidden within the ban on advertising there is a passage which reads: d) any form of public or private contribution to radio programmes with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting electronic cigarettes is prohibited; e) any form of public or private contribution to any event, activity or individual with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting electronic cigarettes and involving or taking place in several Member States or otherwise having cross-border effects is prohibited; This means nothing else but a factual ban of e-cigarette forums, blogs, facebook groups, youtube channels, as well as consumers associations and interest groups related to the e-cigarette! The Vaping Community is well linked-up Europe-wide, they help each other with technical problems, invent novelties, discard useless junk, and above all agitate politically against the regulation frenzy of the EU as in the above-mentioned consumers campaign. Interest groups and consumers associations like the IG-ED e.V. in Germany (www.iged-org/) are organized by languages and not by national borders, and subsequently would then be forbidden to ever speak out in any media at all. This is a clear violation of the fundamental democratic right of freedom of expression! Possibly, this would never have been known to the public, if the EU-Commission had not tried to sell its further claims as a compromise. The truth however, is that they are trying to defend the sinecures of the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries against the e-cigarette: they lay down rules which exclude any of the existing and well-working products and therefore destroy everything which adversely affects their own concepts. By cheer chance by these rules only completely outdated and disputable products of the tobacco industry would get a chance, an industy which currently has begun to edge into the booming market. Noticeably, the pharmaceutical industry seems to be reserved and probably will not enter the market until it can feel safe enough to do so. Some examples: -- Ban of refillable atomizers and of liquid refills The technical development and progress has gained momentum by leaps and bounds in the past few years. From the initial cartridge technology, vapers have long moved on to sophisticated and well-performing tank atomizer systems. In these however, the tobacco companies have only little interest; afer all you can reutilize them nearly without limit, and therefore then own a permanently enduring product which is not desirable as seen from the perspective of competition and profiteering. The pharmaceutical industry, on the other hand, knows how to fill little cartidges a million times. They only have to know what extactly they will be allowed to fill them with. -- Ban of nearly all flavours which arent also used in NRTs Without any scientific reasoning and therefore, meaningless. Mostly the argument is urged that tasty liquids beguile kids to vaping and subsequently, smoking. Several studies have already conclusively falsified this assumption. -- Limitation of nicotine concentration in liquids at 20 mg/ml Not backed up by science. On the contrary, studies show that sometimes even higher concentrations of nicotine might be recommendable for the switch from tobacco to vapor. The boundary value suggested by the EU Commission has been set merely gratuitiously and lacks any scientific basis. -- Limitation of nicotine volume in liquids at 10 mg/ml per packaging unit The only purpose of this rule would be to enable a complete ban of everything but the (completely outdated) cartridge systems of the tobacco industry. -- Ban of cross-border trading as well as internet trade Obviously the Commission is eager to regress the EU back in to the 1960s. -- Steady output of nicotine Why should a harm-reduced product be able to do something which the really harmful product cant do either? For the time being, there is no semi-luxury product available which would fulfill the requirement of a steady output of the effective agent, something that is typical and normal for pharmaceuticals only. So then, why should this be any different in the distinctly harmreduced alternative to cigarettes? Here, the EU Commission is doing blatantly and tastelessly the very thing that Commissioner Tonio Borg falsely accused some EU-MEPs of: lobbying for the tobacco and pharmaceutical industries. Regardless of any health consequences the Commission is trying to destroy a useful product in order to codify the tobacco industry monopoly on nicotine as well as to continuously guarantee the pharmaceutical industry their safe revenues which they generate with almost ineffective nicotine substitutes. Scientific findings pro e-vaping are constantly being ignored and maliciously negated. Critical and informed users and citizens would be gagged in the future and quite obviously be deprived of their basic civil rights. In general, the freedom of speech is being limited in this way only by political systems that previously had appeared to be extinct in European culture. But the European Commission manages to turn democracies gradually and insidiously into a European dictatorship ("Eurokratur"). . © IG-ED e.V. December 1st, 2013 --- free for publishing in your country; we would be grateful for indication of source

It sounds to me like the KPT minni would be a great fit for your situation. If it fits on your setup. Did you know they sell a minni? Its a slimmer form factor then the regualar KPT and they sell diffrent colored glass tanks; not sure if they sell pink, you would have to Google it or look at http://www.fasttech.com/ they may have it.

PB&V method, Press Button & Vape

I'd go with a Kayfun Lite and I just commented in your other thread about the same topic.. but seeing your comment about the original kayfun I assume you got the chammer [hammer clone]

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I use the merliton method...

Press button and suck it

Former Athlete turned "old fat guy"now lol. I can tell you though, as a scout leader that is an avid outdoorsman-hiker-camper-boater etc.. the last almost 8 months have made a drastic difference in my cardiovascular stamina. I have done the same hikes now 3 years in a row and BY FAR this year was the most enjoyable. There is no doubt my lungs, heart, and overall health is exponentially better since switching from analogs to vaping.

I've had batteries in other devices fail catastrophically. The worst being large computer UPS units. In both occasions, I put off attending to charger warning lights. One nearly burst, another split, destroyed my floor, and cost me all of my rental deposit. All batteries need to be handled with some intelligence. That goes for everything from e-cigs, to phones, to laptops, to cars. Anything that is USB and follows USB specifications will output 5v. Using a computer to charge an e-cig should be perfectly fine. The advice against charging on carpeted or upulstered surfaces is good advice. I dont always follow it though. My ego lays next to me on the bed. If you drop your e-cig, make sure the battery connector and casing aren't damage before charging. If your charger doesnt light up the way you expect it, dont charge. (ie, if you need to "trick" your charger in to charging your battery, best not to use that battery on that charger). And always use the right charger!

Worth a switch -- to the Kangor Pro Tank 2 instead. It's a bottom feeder like the Evod but the KPT2 has a pyrex glass tank. It makes my juices taste better, IMO, and you never have to worry about cracking tanks with certain flavors.

Pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten up to 2 packs a day if it weren't for my bipolar and my anxiety disorder. I remember, once upon a time, I used to be able to go into work, wait until my lunch break, go smoke three cigarettes, and then go back to work for the rest of the day without a problem. Couldn't do that once everything else kicked in.

Patricia, I'm looking at mine, and yeah, it's called red, but it's PINK, depending on the color of the juice you have in it. And the purple glass....that looks sort of reddish to me. But maybe my MS has something wrong my eyes other than the shakiness that an eye exam hasn't detected yet. I'm starting to want longer drip tips, too - at least for my drippers.

I got my people.

And the first thing he does is pull off the screen protector!! Lol Hope your enjoying your VTR as much as I am......Bliss......

It's not about not supporting American Venders. I can show receipts of how I have spent over 5-8 times as much with American venders than I have with the 3 orders I have received from fast tech. It is about saving some money on things that I have no problem waiting for. Some of which can't be bought from American vendors. My IGOs were, yes, bought from fast tech saving $50 over getting then from an American Vendor. That's not just a couple bucks. When I volume buy, I will compare prices just like any American Vendor does. If I want it yesterday and I need it that bad, I will be the first one to hit Sweet Vapes, LiteEcig, ..etc

.....and the only thing I'll add to all this awesome advice is dont forget to clean all your threads as well. Remember it not only affects how the various pieces seat together but also affects electrical connection as well!

You could have some juice in the center post. If that's the case take your clearomizer off the battery, place tissue under the clearo at the battery connection end (loosely) and blow gently through the mouthpiece to remove the juice. Dab the bottom of the clearo and also dab the inside of the battery connection to clean out any remaining juice. That should help.

Koda, you should change over to something like a KPT 2 because it comes in PINK, they call it red but it is PINK, isn't it Havamal? Once you have one of those you can buy all kinds of different colors and shapes of drip tips. It is kinda like dressing up your PV. Then again you can always buy an adapter to put on your atomizer that will let you use the drip tips. I bought one when I was still using CE5s but it kinda made it look too long to me. Tam posted some that looked very nice and Fast Tech have a Hugh selection of drip tips, including the long ones. I plan on getting a package of 10 that are assorted colors. But the style is going to long drip tips now.

"Another advantage of changing the goal to smoking cessation is to enable us to meet the needs of smokers with depression, bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia, for whom nicotine is very effective in helping them get through the day far fewer disturbing side effects than their prescription medications. " This is PRECISELY what drove me to use nicotine! I, individually, have some issues. Mostly depression and some OCD tendancies. However, the effects of prescriptions on a multiple are WILDLY different than for the general population. (If I were to take meds for my depression, my headmates can't even function, let alone have a meaningful life. So much so, the one who we put in charge banned the use of such medications. This effect is probably due to my headmates not having the condition anti-depressants would treat.) I don't have that problem with a little nicotine. My nicotine use has had almost no affects on my headmates, yet my depression has become managable. So... why should I not be allowed to avoid lung cancer?

Like Bebop says, rock the little end of the coil back and forth JUST A LITTLE at a time to pull it out a tiny bit. That's usually all you need, although when I experience that problem with my Spinners, I just gently pull the center post up. Been doing that forever now with never a problem as long as you don't pull the center post on the Spinner too far. Did that once and it came out still attached by the wires! I checked to make sure the wires were solidly attached and then carefully put the wires back in and pushed the center post down. No problem at all.

The Kato Hammer is a beauty. I was able to get up in personal with the authentic version (the one on the Vape Revolution site), and it is nice and weighty and feels great in my hand. The clone is nice as well, but you can really see the difference in craftsmanship when you see them side by side in person. 101vape has the clone for $49.99. **Edit. They call the clone the Chammer because it is a Chinese replica. They are giving all the clones names that begin with Chi followed by the name of the original. Just like the Chemesis (Nemesis) and the Chi-Kracken (Kracken).

It will pull all the way out if you pull too hard. You dont need to pull it out very much. Just a bit. Almost imperceptable. Just gently and slowly. Not enough to separate it from the little white insulator ring that keeps the two pieces of metal from touching

Smoktech Magneto V2 and a free 10ml of Waffle 12mg - Millenium Potion. I'm digging this mod, and love how the RSST sits atop. My only complaint is that I can't fire it as easy with my pinky as I can on the K100, so I will have to get used to using my middle finger. Damn vaper problems, ugh. Haven't tasted the juice yet, but will do shortly. Next order will be for a second RSST, more 28g Kanthal, muffler drip tips, and a Fauxgotti top cap for the RSST. They are some very sexy caps, and are only available through Kidney Puncher, but they are sold out.

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