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Sitting on the beach pouting over dead batteries and waiting my turn to borrow a solar charger.... I see a create bobbing out in the lagoon. I decide to go for a swim and check it out. The label has washed off so I have no clue whats inside. After a long swim back to shore I open the crate. Inside I find a shipment of solar panels an framework to build a 6'x4' solar panel. As I dig through the packing material I also find a propane soldiering iron, solider, propane cans and electrical tape. I happen to have grabbed my backup kit containing 19 old 510 atomizers everything I needed to build a mass charging station. *Gets to work...

And the banana fron...oops. *covers eyes* Bebop, your...um...banana...may be showing a bit.

My "Home Can Peaches" but found all my batts were dead... *Spends the the next 3 years looking for a currant bush with a USB outlet.

Makers Mark

They will not be able to regulate me. I will build my own coils and devices while making my own juice. They can't regulate the supplies or my knowledge and ability to create. I would rather see someone take up vaping rather than analogs any day.

Hi folks, I'm from Germany and maybe you'll be asking yourself what the hell does a German guy in an US forum? To be honest I appreciate your attitude to vaping very much. I like your "sub-culture"-approach that appeals to me. Most people in the EU just see vaping as a plain and simple substitute for smoking, but in America (and also in the UK afaik) you created a whole vibrant and cool vaping-culture. That's great! I am a nerd, totally fascinated by technical stuff and an experienced vaper. Maybe I can contribute a few interesting things to this forum, and I'm sure I will also learn a thousand things new to me. Cheers Pls. pardon my crappy english, it's only my second language.

I've posted the exact same problem about an hour ago pulling up the center pin worked. Try it on another battery if you have one. I have 3 so I knew it wasnt the Davide.

Nope. I share my juice and you share your solar charger. I learned all about co-op-er-a-shun on the TVs.

Hey, check this out, I've got two hands! *makes grabby hands* Yep. Two hands, two juices. Mojito by Vapor Source and Feels Like a Nut from EC Blends.

Atmos are a alternative herbal smoking device. And not suitable for nicotine replacement. Also way overpriced here in "legal" Colorado..further discussion will wake Jeff up....lol

Blue voodoo, Mr E liquid

They love the fees they can charge big pharma. I'm so glad Judge Leon told them oh hell no when the fda droolingly insisted for ecigs to be classified as drugs. Why am i suddenly craving walnuts lol

Funny how inconsistent coils are from the factory. Genuine Kanger coils rarely read the resistance they say. I have only had 2 out of probably 50 1.8ohm coils read below 2.0. Most read 2.0-2.1. When I use a 2.2 they always seem to read 2.4-2.5 and when I use a 2.5 it is almost always spot on. Is it easier to hit the higher resistance than the lower when they build the coils, or is there an imperfection in the coil resistance reading abilities of an APV? It has been a LONG time since I used less than the ones labeled 1.8ohm. I regularly vape at 7w unless the coil reads above 2.0 when I go to 7.5 and at 2.3 and above I go to 8 or 8.5w.

Hate the govt. Let me buy what i want as long as i am not bothering others!

This the idea for my lamp PV charger. Right now, it looks like Kitty is pulling the lamp chain. I'm going to remove the chain and build a connector where I have by battery sitting in this picture, so it looks like she is holding my battery. I'm a huge Hello Kitty fan, and would really love having this lamp serve a second function. My pink battery goes well with the Hello Kitty theme.

If it were not for nerds doing software and geeks building hardware, we would not be able to talk on forums like this and still be smoking analogs. Welcome!

I hate this statement. What about a toddler drinking my bleach, my 409, eating my bottle of prescription medication, the fatally poisonous chemicals I use with my electronics, eating my batteries, The list goes on! What about caffeine? I've ODed on caffeine! (I didn't know you could, at the time. What a trip, don't ever do it) What about alcohol? You can OD on that too. The world is full of things that if used, abused, or carelessly let fall in to the hands of small children, will cause death. I have no children, so I don't do much to "child proof" anything. (Actually, given my love of experimenting with electricity, my home would be a child's death trap. Shock hazards, chocking hazards, poisoning hazards... don't bring your kids here) If I did have kids, e-liquids would be secured with my alcohol. The FDA loves to "over protect" and ruin good things.

Except the constant cleaning of contacts

I wish the government would shut up and let me be happy. Oooh... there's an idea! If we could all find a way to benefit directly from paying taxes AND enjoy it, maybe they'll ban taxes! eh? eh? Or find a way to make paying taxes "look like smoking"! Don't mind me, I'm sarcastic.

My reason... Despite quitting regular cigarettes for 12 years (cold turkey), I constantly wanted one. The reason I quit smoking was to protect my headmates. I missed smoking so much. Then, stress pushed me to where I was going to buy a pack of cigarettes, and snagged a disposable e-cig instead. It did the trick! 3 of those at $10 a piece and realized I should just get a vape pen. I love this thing! Without it, I'd most likely be sucking on an old fashion coffin nail right now, despite 12 years quit. Maybe I went a little over kill with the pen I picked out, shouldn't have spent so much, but... this will certainly keep me from picking analogs back up.

Started vaping recently in an effort to transition/quit smoking. This method as some may be aware has been utilized by smokers for years. Obviously not in the same format, but the foundation of delivery was the same. What I find so frustrating is the lose/lose position a smoker is in as far as the perception of regulating entities, and the realization that they perceive e-cigs in a negative light only due to self imposed ignorance on how they handled cigarettes. It's so twisted..the reality of the whole situation is that it simply boils down to money. Our state and federal governments have been milking smokers with heavy tax for years, they advertise this as an incentive to get people to quit. Reality is, they know full well that all this will do is fund them. Now another possible alternative comes along that isn't introduced by a drug company and they feel the need to put the brakes on. Don't get me wrong...they aren't banning them, but they aren't doing much to support the cause either. I can't say that e-cigs are a silver bullet, but they give people hope of the possibility that they may be able to embrace a viable replacement to cigarettes. If they begin taxing, or harshly regulating this product they do nothing more than show their true colors and just how much they actually care about the health of Americans. They talk about e-cigs being a gateway to smoking! You have to be kidding me! Nicotine doesn't get you high, sending the user looking for the next progression. Most smokers started by believing it was cool, or to fit in and found themselves hooked. To this day..our government in recent times has less to say about that then e-cigs! It's all about the handout they receive from big tobacco and it's such a transparent stance that it's offensive they believe any sensible person would see this any differently. God willing, my new e-cig, and the producers of the product help support me as I try to get off of the tobacco train. Lord knows if the dollars in tax I give now change to cents the government will happily determine that they mislabeled the tax as being tobacco, when it was intended to be nicotine. That happens, it's time to go after all the users of caffeine too, because if their was cigarette with caffeine and no nicotine, rest assured there would be people who'd start using it. Leave the e-cigs and those of us excited about trying a new quitting option alone! This is what the leaders of this country have preached to us smokers, so put your money where your mouth is and back a healthier alternative rather than thinking about how to make up the revenue difference.

I would offer up a link to this $30 kit. I highly doubt it is an authentic Kamry at that price, but the K100 clones of clones are usually only sold individually, not offered in a kit. Either way, I would buy everything separate. You can find great deals on the K100 all over the place. Get yourself some good batteries and a good charger, as they are the most important aspect for any mechanical mod. Don't ever skimp on the batteries. All that aside, the K100 is a solid beginner mechanical. I would definitely recommend it to someone looking to enter the world of mech mods. As for SlowTech, expect delays with any orders containing batteries. It's not FastTech's fault about the holdups, its HK customs. Some get lucky and receive their order within 2 weeks, but they are few and far. Others end up waiting months for their order.

I'd like the k100 or a magneto

This weekend I and the other Den Leaders for my sons Cub Scout Pack took them "cave camping". It was a very cool trip but a couple of the parents were smokers and had asked if they could bring their "Nicorette" gum in with them. They asked since gum was expressedly forbidden so I told them I wasnt sure. Well as soon as we got into the cave the tour guide says "No Tobacco, No gum, No firearms, No open flame, etc.... One of the parents asked about nicorette and he said absolutely not. I pulled the tour guide over to the side and asked him about vaping and explained it to him. He said that wouldn't be a problem. Since I always over pack I brought 4 fully charged Ego batteries and 4 full tanks of 24mg (just in case I was gonna have to sneak) I talked to the parents that smoked and set them each up with a battery and full tank to use for the trip and all 3 of them say they are going today to buy the starter kits. I sent them links and such but am sure they will just go to the B&M which is fine, their money. I was just proud to have led the way on hopefully a much healthier life for them and it all happened in a cave almost 2 miles below the earths surface! Incidentally, even with 70pg liquids the vapor production is immense in 100% humidity lol.

Gum in a cave environment can be very destructive. Water vapor that dissipates cannot really do any damage.

That's still kind of odd... 'Absolutely no gum'... but 'Sure thing' to blowing vapor clouds? I mean, it's awesome he let you vape... but it still comes across as kinda strange.

I like that it's a better quality of smoke. I enjoy smoking. I never really looked into quitting. I mean, I've dabbled with the patch and the gum and mused myself on how addicted I really was until I'd do a 10-fold relapse and would be back to analogs. When my friend was smoking from his e-cig I saw it and it smelled nice and he was a bigger smoker than I was, so... what the hell? Something else to smoke, right? I wasn't planning on quitting cigarette, cigars, hookah, ect. I was planning to still smoke it up. But, I haven't picked up a cigarette, hookah, or cigar since my e-cig. My favorite cigar flavor is one I made for my e-cig with my liquids, I have a couple of tanks that produce larger clouds than my hookah ever did, and there's really NO mess (unless you spill some liquid). Ash being everywhere is something I do not miss. There's even a local vapor lounge for social smoking that friends and I venture to hang out and try the new flavors. I considered quitting when I started, but it was only because that was basically the concept behind the e-cigs. Didn't think I'd ACTUALLY quit. Used to smoke a little over half a pack a day, hookah three times a day, and have a nice cigar once a week, give or take, and now I haven't touched a cigarette for a little over a year. That IS a good feeling, even if I didn't want to quit.

You've just guaranteed I won't ever smoke a US made analog again. A friend from Norway says evidently the cigarettes are more "pure" over there, very few additives, if any, and very low addiction rate. The lung cancer rates are incredibly low in Norway - and this friend generally manages to make it through a day smoking very few cigarettes (like, half a pack is excessive smoking for him).

I have had issues with the MVP2 collar preventing the tank from screwing down all the way. I use a regular ego thread cover or super shorty ego cone when I have this kind of issue. Covers up your junk and lets the tanks screw down flush.

I am all for disposable e-cigarettes ....the best way to smoke and toss after a night of dancing/clubbing! CHEERS

I did it for health reason but all the above are strong at least for me.

All of the above and more LOL. How many analogs could make it through the Grand Rapids ride at MI Adventure and take a puff as you get off the ride. True Story... You should have seen the look on the guys face that saw my drag on my E-Cig after hitting every water fall on the ride. He was in the same car as us and saw me get soaked to the bone. Me) *Pull out my old trusty 510 take a long drag...exhale... Me) *Yeap Still works!" Guy) "You Had That Lit The Whole Time?" Pricless

it taste better, and healthier too.

I started just to save money, but have come to love everything else about vaping too.

I have chosen E-cigarette because it is Eco-friendly, produces less smoke, contains almost zero nicotine, comes in different shapes, flavors and you can measure the nicotine level.....

I quit analogs and started Vaping for health reasons, as well as cost. If you read my post under new members, you know I am a lung Cancer survivor. I did quit after surgery, but a weak moment led to a cig it was down hill after that. I was at a Tobacco shop where I bought supplies to roll my own, when the owner talked me into trying Vapor. I decided to give it a try. It has been about 6 weeks and I have only had 5 or 6 analogs. The last 2 weeks I have had zero stinkers. I have heard that your body starts healing as soon as you quit, I am breathing easier and sleeping better. I had given up quiting but thanks to Vaper I know I can do it. I know I can!

To stop smoking cigarettes to stop harming myself and my family, the flavors and the convenience. So far, it has cost me more than twice the amount my banner says I've saved on cigarettes, but I'm sure that'll work itself out once I get settled in the equipment I use and the flavors I like the most.

I chose all of the above cause every choice had something that appealed to me. One option was that it is tobacco free and doesn't cause as much damage as a traditional cigarette, which even though hasn't yet been proven, but I definitely feel the differences already. Also, the smell (or lack thereof), and another good benefit is the food that I eat actually tastes good.

I watched my father die of emphysema because of smoking (Suffocated to death over 2 years.) I also felt that cigs were killing me (tightness in chest, etc...). I had to quit but conventional methods didn't work for me. Then I found e-cigs! Hooray! I have been happier and healthier ever since! Oh yea, I love the flavors also!

1st thing i was looking for - cancer sticks replacement, but of course its costs much less.

Oh, and. "I don't stink of cigarettes" and "I don't burn holes in my clothes". And "I don't have to smoke in the ice and snow and rain" and "I'm not a pariah anymore" and "I can smell things better now" and .....

All the above

I had to choose all the reasons! What reason is there to stay with analogs in comparison? I feel bad for the people who won't make the switch. First of all, and the main reason I'm vaping, its healthier. My health is something important to me, being that I'm still pretty young, and don't wanna screw my whole life up with lung cancer. Yes, vaping is more affordable. I live in Washington, most cigarettes are at least 6.50$+ for a pack of smokes. However, there's an Indian reservation here (Puyallup), and I would get these smokes called 305's, 30$ a carton, but they got busted by the feds (tax evasion) and now only sell King Mountains, 40$ a carton. I typically won't smoke those things through an entire carton, too harsh, so I had to switch to Newport Reds which are 8$ a pack. That's a lot of money even though I only smoked about a half a pack a day. I'm in love with the flavors of eLiquid so there's another reason. You know why else I prefer vaping? I found you guys because of it I know, it's cheesy

I can tell you that my Nurse Practitioner, who is my primary care provider, is a big fan of them, since she has seen me stop smoking with them. I am in the masters program now to get my NP, and a lot of my instructors have discussed it with me, know people who have used e-cigs, and are all in favor. As a nurse, I tell people all the time about e-cigs, and I direct them here, so they can get all the information, including reference to the FDA's concerns.

I just tried my first e cig a few days ago and I shouted from the rooftops! My exact thought was that I can quit smoking without quitting smoking!!! What's wrong with that? It's a win win situation all around. My stance is that the United States Postal service is in grave trouble now because they should have invented email. Likewise, big tobacco should have invented e cigs. I hope e cigs catch on to the point where cigarettes are considered quaint and big tobacco ceases to exist! If there is truly a risk of prohibition, we need to get the petitions going and demand comprehensive unbiased toxicology and research by an independent firm with no ties to either side and put the issue to rest once and for all.

I didn't read thru even the entire first post in this thread, simply because I had to stop and look in shock and awe at one particular comment. You said you think that the FDA cares about us and is in this fight for the health of the people... This is complete BS. I'm not calling you out, suggesting that you're dumb or anything at all like that. But they certainly do not care about us. If they did, there is no conceivable reason for them to do what they've been doing(seizing shipments, spreading all kinds of lies and BS about e-cigs being dangerous or potentially dangerous). We KNOW for a fact that cigarettes are TERRIBLE for us, yet the FDA allows them to be sold. Meanwhile, here comes a much safer alternative, and what do they do? They say that because they haven't been proven completely safe(wtf is 100% safe anyway?), that they should be pulled from the market until they can be proven completely safe, despite the fact that cigarettes, in contrast, have been proven 100% NOT safe, yet they're allowed to be there. This is all about money and complaints from either the tobacco industry, the pharmaceutical industry, doctors who get kickbacks, or a combination of all three. These are NOT marketed to kids. These are NOT nicotine-cessation devices. Despite the common belief that apparently adults don't like or deserve candy, THEY DO. These are also not drug delivery devices. What about 0 nic juice? And even WITH nicotine in the juice, if this is a drug delivery device, then so are cigarettes. So is a coffee mug. So is an aluminum can. We can be ridiculous about this and start calling everything that aids you in the ingestion, inhalation, or absorption of ANYTHING a drug delivery device, or we can just end the madness and give smokers a much healthier alternative to smoking that still allows them to get the nicotine they crave. It also allows them the option to actually quit because it addresses the hand-to-mouth action, it addresses the "smoke" aspect, and it provides lower levels of nicotine and even 0 nicotine juices. There are cigarettes with lower nicotine(or at least that's what I THINK "lights," which we can't call them anymore are), but there aren't any with ZERO nicotine. And now thanks to new legislature, if one were to try smoking lower nicotine cigarettes, it's much more confusing because we can't call them lights or mediums or whatever anymore. Gums, patches, and pills have a horrible success rate. Only the e-cigarette has a success rate higher than 20%(which is probably being incredibly generous to other methods of quitting), and it wasn't even intended as an aid for quitting. That's saying something. That's powerful. THAT is why all this crap is going on, because it is so great. The FDA sees this. The FDA knows this. Doctors know this. The pharmaceutical industry knows this, and so does big tobacco. The government wants e-cigs gone because they're losing tax money. The Pharmaceutical industry wants e-cigs gone because they're competition to the gums, patches, and pills that don't work. Big tobacco wants e-cigs gone because they're competition to cigarettes, and (some)doctors want e-cigs gone because it prevents them from getting as many dr. visits, prescribing as many drugs, and in turn, getting as many kickbacks. Basically, for every person that wants e-cigs gone, they have a financial interest in their removal from the market. It's THAT simple. And every single thing I ever hear about the FDA points to the fact that they absolutely ARE NOT for our benefit. They don't want us to be healthy. Keeping us unhealthy is what keeps their wallets full. Same goes for doctors and pharmaceutical and insurance companies.

As soon as I read this, I stopped reading: I certainly don't want my kids or grand kids using tobacco either. But does that mean we as a free society should legislate tobacco out of legality like other leafs? like marijuana? The FDA is a unconstitutional agency to begin with. Nowhere does the constitution permit the federal government authority to create such a monstrous and tyrannical arm. The FDA is a legal version of the MOB, that's all. And for anyone to say different shows they are obviously oblivious to the history of the FDA's actions. The current actions that the FDA was intended to perform, should, and of right out to be, given to the states to deal with. If the FDA was abolished how much taxes and debt would that save our country? hundreds of billions a year? A state operated version of the FDA would be less expensive and far less tyrannical! The FDA is motivated by one thing, money, not the safety and health of our population. If anyone should be determined to do whatever it takes to stop the deadly spread of tobacco use, or any other substance, it should be left in the hands of friends and family. NOT A GOVERNMENT INSTITUTION! I can not stress that enough! PLANTS of ANY kind should never be outlawed or regulated in a free society! That is NOT FREEDOM. Alcohol kills more people in America than all other illegal drugs COMBINED, but yet alcohol is legal. Ever ask yourself why? TAXES and social acceptance. For decades the FDA has proven that they will do whatever it takes to protect big pharma and taxes. There is far more money involved in TREATING diseases versus CURING them. the FDA's actions over the past several decades proves that! So get off your high horse as a nurse, and realize, that if the FDA didn't exist, but state level equivalent's did in every state, we'd have less diseased people in America, and less people in your hospital to deal with.

What's so bizarre that it's almost funny, is that there are numerous articles and State funded tobacco control papersavailable online complaining that roughly "50% of smokers believe the myth that nicotine causes cancer". So instead of correcting many smokers inaccurate belief, here is California government requiring you to do something that perpetuates their ignorance! I could understand a statement that says "Smoking causes cancer", but "Nicotine Causes Cancer"? Unbelievable.

Absolutely fascinating conversation. I understand and commend you for wanting to help people make the healthiest decisions possible re getting off nicotine. However, I was pretty bowled over by the line in your new disclaimer stating that "Nicotine Causes Cancer". I've searched high and low for any evidence that nicotine alone causes cancer and have found nothing credible to suggest that nicotine alone, apart from smoking, causes cancer. Yes, there might be trace amounts of potentially carcinogenic nitrosamines in the production of nicotine, but there's been no evidence that such a low level of nitrosamines actually causes cancer. Does Nicorette gum carry the warning label for causing cancer? I am a bit confused as to why that statement, "Nicotine Causes Cancer", is there. Further, while we all know of nicotine's addictive properties, if it doesn't cause other negative health effects, why such eagerness to get people off it? There are only two reasons that I can think of: 1. Nicotine addiction still "an addiction" and all addiction is "a disease"; 2. Without the e-cig satisfying the nicotine craving, someone would jump back to cigarettes to satisfy that nicotine in a heartbeat. As for nicotine addiction as "a disease", yes, that is a good model to use for a medical professional looking a treatment options. And it is a good reason for keeping the next generation from getting hooked. But, if it causes no ill effects to the physical health of the addict, then I'd say it probably ought to be pretty low on the list of addictions for people to feel a need to "cure". The best I think that we can hope for (collectively) in this generation is harm reduction. Even many anti-smoking groups have given up on seeking perfection in human behavior and have instead adopted a harm reduction strategy. The second issue is what I think is the really tough issue. E-cigs with nicotine make it easy to quit analogs, but until the nicotine addiction is cured, the leap back to analogs from e-cigs is way too easy. We haven't broken any of the major behavioral links to smoking --still have the hand to mouth habit -- and still have the addiction to nicotine. The very thing that makes vaping nicotine an effective smoking replacement (it similarity to smoking) is the very thing that makes returning to smoking an easier leap. So ultimately, until we ultimately wean ourselves off of nicotine, we are easy marks for returning to smoking.