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A new study in the medical journal, The Lancet, revealed that E-Cigs work just as well as nicotine patches in helping people to quit smoking, Of those assigned to the e-cig with nicotine, 7.3 percent had abstained from smoking during the entire trial period. Of those assigned to nicotine patches, 5.8 percent had also abstained, and a little more than 4 percent of those assigned to the placebo e-cigs abstained. After smoking for 70 years, Ive now been using the E-Cig for one year with, surprisingly, no difficulty eliminating analogs. I still have two unopened cartons on hand with no desire to use them. My personal opinion why so many have difficulty in eliminating analogs is due to vaping the plethora of flavored juices. I never smoked strawberry or butter scotch Marlboros before, so why smoke these flavors now? Vaping only tobacco flavored juice, I receive not only the nicotine to satisfy the addiction but the taste of the analog, so closely resembling the analog, I doubt Id know the difference.

Bought the wife an MVP for Christmas. She is all googly eyed over them so I got some shopping done early.

After smoking 70 years and quitting you deserve mad props!!!!!! youre the man!

Coop goodness! Love it. Currently on order w/ various coops - RSST w/ Spare tank - Taifun Clone (Fogger) V2 - Nzonic Clone - Nimbus V3 - Couple Bullet style SS Drip tips! Boatload of Mini Protank 2 V2 (w/ removable tip) and heads in my near future as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/07/electronic-cigarettes-quit-smoking-nicotine-patches_n_3881863.html Electronic cigarettes, which provide nicotine without the cigarette smoke toxins, work just as well as nicotine patches in helping people to quit smoking, according to a new study in the medical journal The Lancet. New Zealand researchers found that the smoking cessation success rate was about the same for smokers who tried to quit with electronic cigarettes and those who tried with nicotine patches. Indeed, similar results were even found for would-be quitters given placebo e-cigarettes -- that is, without nicotine. Study participants who were unable to quit smoking completely still reduced their use of tobacco cigarettes when they were also using the e-version -- more even than those who used nicotine patches. "Our study establishes a critical benchmark for e-cigarette performance compared to nicotine patches and placebo e-cigarettes, but there is still so much that is unknown about the effectiveness and long-term effects of e-cigarettes," said Chris Bullen, director of the National Institute for Health Innovation at The University of Auckland, in a statement. "Given the increasing popularity of these devices in many countries, and the accompanying regulatory uncertainty and inconsistency, larger, longer-term trials are urgently needed to establish whether these devices might be able to fulfill their potential as effective and popular smoking cessation aids," he added. The findings are based on data from 657 smokers trying to quit, who were recruited through newspaper ads. Of those, 292 were assigned to use e-cigarettes with 16 milligrams of nicotine for 13 weeks, 292 were assigned to use nicotine patches for 13 weeks, and 73 were assigned to use placebo e-cigarettes that didn't have any nicotine in them. Researchers followed up with study participants after the 13 weeks to see if they had successfully abstained from cigarettes. Of those assigned to the e-cigarettes with nicotine, 7.3 percent had abstained from smoking during that entire period. Of those assigned to nicotine patches, 5.8 percent had abstained. And a little more than 4 percent of those assigned to the placebo e-cigarettes abstained. Researchers said the differences among those percentages were not statistically significant, meaning the e-cigarette and nicotine patch groups had about the same smoking cessation success rate. Among the majority of participants who didn't quit smoking entirely, 57 percent of those assigned to the e-cigarettes cut their use of regular cigarettes at least in half, compared with only 41 percent of those assigned to the nicotine patches. After the study was over, those who had been assigned to electronic cigarettes, both the placebo and nicotine versions, were more likely to continue their use: About one in three kept smoking them, compared to less than one in 10 who continued to use the nicotine patches. E-cigarette users were also more likely than patch users to recommend the product to others. In a related commentary in The Lancet, Peter Hajek, of the Wolfson Institute of Preventive Medicine and the U.K. Center for Tobacco and Alcohol Studies at the Queen Mary University of London, wrote that while much more research is needed, the findings suggest that e-cigarettes can help quit-minded smokers to stop the habit and lead to less use of traditional cigarettes. At the same time, he acknowledged the concerns that e-cigarettes could actually increase smoking by "renormalizing" the behavior: There is an obvious source of evidence as to whether use of ecigarettes leads to an increase or reduction in tobacco smoking: the trajectories of sales of e­cigarettes and tobacco cigarettes. If growing sales of ecigarettes coincide with increased sales of tobacco cigarettes, tobacco control activists arguing for restriction of ecigarette availability would be vindicated. If traditional cigarette sales decline as ecigarette sales increase, it would suggest that ecigarettes are normalising nonsmoking and that it is in the interest of public health to promote and support their development rather than try to restrict it. A Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report recently found that electronic cigarette use is up in a demographic who likely aren't trying to quit entrenched smoking habits: middle and high school students. According to the report, 1.78 million youths in middle and high school said they had tried an e-cigarette at least once in the last year. The percentage of high schoolers who said they had tried an e-cigarette rose from 4.7 percent in 2011 to 10 percent in 2012. The Food and Drug Administration has yet to regulate electronic cigarettes, though it has said it plans to do so soon. Not much information exists so far on the product's long-term safety. Some research has been done on e-cigarettes' effect on the heart (there didn't seem to be any), their effect on the lungs (they appeared to increase airway resistance), and the chemicals they contain (the FDA found two brands contained carcinogens and an anti-freeze chemical).

I am getting some flack from the wife lately as she says she is seeing and reading posts or articles or whatever on E-cig's harming people. 1. I cant imagine them comparing to tobacco harm 2. They say it causes pneumonia? I havent seen nor heard of that. have you? 3. The drying effect of the PG causes cancer? LOLOLOLOL When she married me I had pipes and cubans. I smoked outside or on the porch. Now I vape in my office in the air conditioning. At first she liked it. Then hated the tobac. Then loved me quitting. Then loved the sweet smelling vapes. Now she thinks they are as bad as tobac! She says internet and TV doctors are expressing fear over e-cigs. Sigh. It all sounds like politics to me.

Yep!

I don't think I wanna know how it is that you know what a cactus tongue scrub feels like so you can make this comparison, Troy. TMI

That's actually a good amount of time on a device without a coil change. But ce4s are a disposable and hard to clean out. Time to buy another, or maybe a better device that you can change the coils on. Lots of options there for sure.....

Hmmmm...that reminds me, I'm switching to cactus cooler now

Cactus tongue. A great side effect and exfoliator replacement. As in: C'mere, bebe, and let me bave you wif my thongue.

Trying to get a part time job in the local b&m for some extra money, maybe I can't get a good discount if I work there.

Just popped on 70ml of liquid from vape dudes, and 72ml from Mr. E liquid. 30ml of strawberry fields, 10ml of Irish coffee, 10ml of mocha java drizzle, 10ml of thinner mint, 10ml of chocolate bannana, 36ml of Pluto, and 36ml of blue voodoo.

I'm just looking forward to hearing what you all think of this flavor, Medic. I've already known it yummy for nearly a year now. lol

Okay, the first week after I started vaping, I finished up what cigarettes I had left on hand (with the addition of a pack or two due to a death in the family). But it took essentially, ten days to get through what should have been four days worth of analogs. By the time I was halfway done with the analogs on hand, I would take hits off my PV because it tasted better. I was using a flavored tobacco flavor (tobacco plus other flavorings), and it tasted better than just light tobacco did. Yeah, I've had a couple slip ups - both I pretty much knew would happen, and the last one, I think the only reason I didn't pitch the analog after I lit it and tasted "just tobacco" is that it was menthol,and my brain registered it as a "flavor" - though I can't stand menthol flavored juices, or menthol tobacco flavored juices - like, the last slip up I had was when my mom was in the hospital, in danger of losing her leg (this was on August 14), I had a couple of my sister's Kool's (not even lights, which I used to smoke, so my head kinda buzzed when I had an analog) when we were on the way to see her at the hospital an hour away. But I've tried a couple different samples of juices based on Kool's analogs, and I can't stand them. IMO, I think the flavors are there to get us - even if we start out on a tobacco flavor (that usually aren't "just" tobacco flavored), it's to ensure that our mind equates vaping with tasting better. Not the faux analogs like Blu that essentially imitate a full flavor, light, or menthol flavor, but the actual juices we buy for the PV's. I have three tobacco flavors now, and um, several non-tobacco flavors, and at least the last week, I've only been able to vape ONE of the flavored tobaccos - the first one we started out with, with an extra flavor shot. (BTW, if you were smoking Marlboros, for many years you WERE smoking a light amount of chocolate. My friends thought I was nuts that I could sometimes taste chocolate when smoking Marlboros, but I looked it up, and up until the ban on flavorings other than menthols, Marlboro put a bit of cocoa in their analogs.) And props to you for two MAJOR things. First off, if you smoked for seventy years, and are still here, the fact that you haven't succumbed to any of the major death traps involved with analogs is a BIG good on you moment, and your body started to recover the minute you put your last one out. Secondly, BIG CONGRATS, like Christie said, on quitting analogs after SEVENTY years, and still being "clean" a year later! Edit: BTW, yeah, I'm satisfying a sweet tooth with some of what I vape - like chocolate banana.

I loved Cubano cigars. And pipes. The nic levels in the Cubans was amazing and addictive. Then add the myriad of evil crap that was killing me in parts. Now I notice that my tatstes are changing. The things I used to like is changing also. Now the smell of a cigar sickens me. The odor of pipe tobacco isnt pleasant like it was. Tobacco flavored juices just taste vile to me now. I have no idea what I will be like in a year. Butterscotch might be tasty then to me. I bet tobacco will still repulse me tho. I have not had a single cigar or pipe load since E-cig day. I breathe better now.

At first I tried the tobacco flavored juice, but it kept me going right back to analogs. Once I tried the fruity flavors, I never wanted to taste tobacco again. I had never liked menthol, and never even tried the flavored analogs. I was a bold full flavor type of smoker. So, for me, the authentic tastes of the non tobacco flavors is what really helped me to switch over. Different strokes for different folks, as each persons palettes differ. Great job on kicking the analogs! :applause:

Okay, I found out my problem. It wasn't due to the wicks needing a wash and rinse, but mainly due to the gunky buildup on the coils. I kept wracking my brain, trying to figure out what I could use to clean off the coils with. I ended up putting the iClear30 and other gunked up coils aside, but then last night I was watching a bunch of vape reviews on YouTube and came across an iClear30 review that showed you how to clean them. I ended up smacking my forehead and shouting "DUH!". In the video he does a 'dry burn', heating up the coils to burn out the gunky buildup, and then rinsing the residue. Smh...... I should've known to try that, but instead kept thinking "If only I had a tiny wire brush to clean the coil with.". lol So now my problem is completely solved, and I recommend the 'dry burn' technique if your coils get too gunky and you haven't any ISO laying around, as I don't. Just be careful not to overheat the coils. Blow on them and give them a couple seconds rest between each 'dry burn'. You don't want to end up popping the coil. I know many of the veterans or even rookies probably know this, but it is good info for the novice such as myself. I am moving up the ranks though.

Head feels same as most Sunday mornings lol.

http://www.tobacco.ucsf.edu/e-cigarettes-release-toxic-chemicals-indoors-should-be-included-clean-indoor-air-laws-and-policies There are comments about the Indoor Air study and the Disken Study here. good read remember a lot of the detractors are not saying it's bad for you only that it should be regulated indoors (i don't agree with them (my personal opinion)).

didn't know about mount baker. Ordered a few juices from there to see how they taste. it's so cheap that i ordered like 10 different flavors to see if i like them. Always feel i gotta try a large variety from a vendor to get a good feel lol!

There have been a couple of Vape Dudes flavors that I absolutely LOVE. I've never tried EC Blends. My buds are still recovering, so there is that, too, and this last week ALL of my flavors have been hit or miss, and some of the things I've tasted my tongue has totally confused. I haven't seen anyone here using them, but there are a couple of flavors out of Chi-Town Vapers that I like - one enough that I order REGULARLY, and some from Better Vapes - smallish online store, but they also have a storefront a couple towns over from us. The main one we get from them, that we BOTH vape, after the first bottle, after we found out that THEY made the juice the other store carried, we decided to get an extra flavor shot on the 618. Definitely go into a storefront that has a large sample size for you to taste from (the samples SHOULD have a lowered nic content on them, so you don't get sick from sampling too much - you know how you feel when you've smoked too much; that's how it feels when you vape too much nic) to get an idea what you might like, at least of what they carry, and go forth from there. Yeah, the higher PG can be pretty harsh. I've always started out on 50/50 mix unless the manufacturer recommends differently for that particular juice. That way you get equal parts throat hit/flavor and vapor. And then work up or down as you see fit. I myself wouldn't want to go below 50 on PG, though, because you lose flavor, but running 90, even 80 pg newly, and you are still smoking analogs, I can see it being a bit harsh. The peppery feeling could be you actually inhaling some juice that got into your feeder tube - at least, that's what I've heard it described as. What flavor juice was this? And like Tam said, the FIRST thing to try, if it feels too harsh, it try to dial down the voltage in your twist. Been finding that out by trial and error since my variable voltage came in at the end of last week, well, a week ago Friday, I guess. And I would recommend switching to glass tanks as well - I like both Davide and Kanger Pro Tank 2's (and pro tank mini's), but I still have some evods on hand for sampling (but some kanger mini protank 2's with replaceable drip tips are going on my christmas list to replace the evods). The taste you get out of a glass tank is so much - well, it tastes so much better. And for me, bottom coils (like evods) taste better than top coils (like I THINK the Vivi Nova), IMHO, plus, you don't have to worry about storing them on their sides to make sure the wicks stay wet, and you can let the levels get farther down before topping off, since the coil/wick assembly is on the bottom. But one thing....especially once you find a COUPLE of flavors at least that like, try not to run the same flavor all day every day. It's supposed to make it easier for your tongue to, I guess, adjust?

Stick with the Njoy if you like it. You can get a lesser % nic.

lol 'Im the opposite ! I have 2 nova minis and I really dont like them that much . I love my kpt2 and davides ! even though I have broken them I will just keep glass replacements around because I cant be without them .

If I were you I'd go with a 50/50 or a 60 PG/40 VG ratio and see how that works for you. With 18 mg of nic the 50/50 should give a decent throat hit without being too harsh. The peppery/spicy feeling shouldn't be there, it's probably your juice ratio but I can't be sure. How high do you have your Twist set at? It might be too high, try dialing that down a bit. Personally, I prefer direct dripping to anything else but there is a learning curve. Since you're just starting out I'd recommend staying with clearomizers/tanks at first until you get that down. Then, I'd go with direct dripping after. Just my opinion, though.

I think it happens when the coil and quick are saturated. Yes I also don't mind when I get those hits Christie.

First opinion - it's the juice. EC Blends may not be for you even though others will like them We all go through this. It's VERY subjective. You really have no other choice but to experiment. Pg carries more flavor generally than Vg as a guiding rule. I have experienced the same thing with other vendors. The best solution is to find a local juice maker that you can try out juices before you buy. Other than that it's hit or miss. MY favorites after a LOT of experimenting are: Lush Vapor The Vaping Monkey Fuzion Vapes Vape dudes But even then, it's hit or miss. For ME those companies have the highest percentage of good strong juice flavors. I cannot help you beyond that

omg popping is a good thing ! its nothing to worry about ,. I get the best hits when my coil pops!

Great thing about it, we can take as long as we want. Sit back and enjoy the vape.

Just put in an order with Fuzion Vapor. Got the 3-pack sampler with all the blood juice : Unicorn Blood, Gummy Blood, and Rasta Blood. 3 10ml for $20?? You can't beat that price, especially with the raves and reviews about their juices. This upcoming couple weeks is gonna be exciting, lol. Thanks for the recommendation bcarter!

I agree. I use my Vivi Nova much more than my KPT for this very reason.

Been on the UNicorn Blood since about 4 yesterday afternoon. Man that is some great great stuff!

smack them with the vamo too. handy self defense mechanism... then you can vape after you have vanquished a few zombies.

It's on my list, Tam!

I KNOW I'm under a grand...I just KNOW it!

Gear:........$125.00.......Juice:........$ 80.00.......Not smoking analogs:.......Priceless.

Nope I keep my credit cards in my name and spend whatever I want BUT IM the dollars and sense person in the relation ship so In my mind I have this system you see. what I do is keep a weekly running tab in my head I can spend $35.00 a week or less( thats less than I spent smoking )and my dollar amount rolls over for example if I buy 15.00 worth of juice this week and am eyeing an accessory I know I can roll over $20.00 to next week and have $55.00 to spend my husband doesnt give a crap because If he brings up what I spend I ll bring up what he spends . Were happy this way .And I have the figures on the tip of my tongue. I used to have a pretty bad addiction to buying antique ancore hocking fire king jadeite dishes THAT caused problems here lol My husband never understood why I had to buy 12 $40 plates that nobody was allowed to touch .I was working on a place setting for 12 (need even numbers ) anyhow that was out of hand clearly .

"Are you spending more than you'd like to on vaping supplies?" No. I like the amounts I'm spending on vaping supplies just fine, thanks. "Do you find yourself hiding new gear or juice from your significant other so they won't know about your "dirty little secret"?" No, I put them in plain sight, which is where he'll never see them. Really. I brought that to his attention once and he swore I was out of my mind. For three weeks before Christmas his unwrapped present sat on the coffee table. He even moved it a couple of times. And I got pictures of it in his hand. And he never noticed.

Need I say more?

You first.