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In the beginning a lot of ecigs came with 3 pieces, the battery+atomizer+cartridge (with fabric in the cartridge to hold e-liquid). That setup never really wicked well and juice would get stuck in the cartridge and not feed to the atomizer. Battery+Atomizer+Cartridge setup: Most people now just replace the cartridge with a drip tip, which looks like this: You place the drip tip ontop of the atomizer, it is just a mouthpiece with a center hole, which allows you to 'direct drip' and feed liquid directly onto the atomizer itself. If you want lots of vapor and short inhales, low resistance atomizers 1.5-2.0ohm range produce tons of vapor when direct dripping (direct dripping 100%VG e-liquid is just insane vapor )

Oh Clis, you sooo funny!

Ok, here is my take on the Visions. (I have not tried the new longer wick ones that supposedly corrects the burnt taste) 1. Easy to fill and when to add more juice or to change flavors. 2. Equal or better than most cartos IMO. 3. Very rarely I do get a bit of a burnt taste. 4. I have noticed tiny cracks on the ones I have but may be due too tightening to hard. (cracks near the base) 5. Occasionally get juice in the mouth. (I do tend to tip it up when it gets low on juice) 6. No doubt the flavor is muted compared to direct tipping IMO. (direct tipping is the best way for flavor IMO) 7. I don't feel the effect of a true LR vape. 8. I do get a tiny bit of leaking on the batt but not to bad.

I skimmed over this thread but while I do agree hardware will become cheaper I don't believe e liquid will. Not because it won't become cheaper to create but because there is simply no need to lower the price.You have to remember at one point e cigarettes where about quiting smoking. This is quickly changing. e Cigarettes are quickly becoming more of a replacement. There is no need to drop the price on e liquid because it's an addiction. It's one of those rare product categories. Big Tobacco entering the game (which we all knew would happen) will benefit the community in the fact that we can all agree e cigarettes are now unlikely to become banned. After the market has become corporate controlled (and we see this slowly happening) hardware prices will drop to entice new customers while e liquid will probably become more expensive. When I say more expensive I don't mean the price of a bottle will raise but rather than distribution method will change. Bottled liquid will probably be removed from the market over the years with government touting safety. Corporate isn't going to disagree with this and thus no legal fights will ensue. (The profit margin is higher on carto's in the long term) Cartomizers or similar will dominate over traditional bottle liquid and this very delivery method change will cause e liquid to become more expensive by the very fact you can no longer purchase in bulk. Sure there will still be some DIY'ers but most won't go this route. Add in sin taxes that are guaranteed to come down the chain years from now and I'd bet money, you're not going to see cheaper liquid. We're not selling toasters here we're selling an addictive drug, the same rules don't apply.

Ha Ha Ha! Just wait, you'll do something dumb one of these days...

I agree with what you said. The huge sweet spot of the market is an analog sized device with an all day battery and efficient juice delivery system. But that is a few years off. I said that this summer will see the emergence of a vv ego with a better vision thing as almost an industry standard. The mini will follow but we ain't there yet. Hell, a few years ago I used those freakin 801 pens with polyfill and chinese jungle juice and thought it was the bee's knees. Imagine what the next few years hold now that the profit potential is obvious to more and more.