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First let me say I am glad this is my 100th post - I like a good meaty thread! I am with the folks who say we do have the responsibility to take advantage of the learning moment. Let's be honest, if you are outside the world of vaping you will no doubt think someone in the corner vaping is smoking. So its an opportunity to educate someone about the difference and what a difference they can make in someones life. I also would also speak to the the manager in charge first. I am in the fortunate position in Florida of preferring to sit outside on the patio anyway - at least at this time of year, come August who know? I do frequent my local starbucks and they know me well so I will at some point speak to them and get explicit permission first. I also think it's a good idea to choose your juice carefully - as noted some juices do have a very strong smell, as I type this I am vaping a very strong smelling black cherry. If I were to vape in a starbucks I think I would bring a coffee flavor so it blends with the smells that loft around the starbucks as part of the everyday starbucks experience, who could claim they smell my coffee vape over the smell of the business itself! I go to a local pub quite often - go figure - and have had a long conversation with the owners about this. They are happy to allow me and others to vape on the outside patio and at the inside bar, but would prefer not in the dining area. His argument is he wants to accommodate all and provide a comfortable experience for all. Their thinking around the dining room is since there is such a knowledge gap right now it's likely to bother some - admittedly due to lack of knowledge, but he does not want to lose business over it - I think his solution is a fair happy middle ground and I applaud his openness to a mutual solution. Lets be honest, this is our thing, and for years now the anti-smoking crowd has pushed the line - if you can smell it its killing you. So if we want vaping to be socially acceptable we need to honest that to the uninformed person it looks like we are smoking, take a few moments and try to educate a person about the very real difference, and most people will be open to it - its also likely that you might just give some information to someone who knows someone who smokes and they might pass long the information they gain about vaping to that smoker, perhaps changing their life! That did happen to me this past weekend and I just heard last night that person passed along the information and the person ordered and eGO. Happy vaping all!

My IMR 18650 is 1600 mah and lasts me a good day. The 18650 is approx. 16mm ( 5/8") longer than the 18490. i would recommend getting the 18650 with the extension cap.

The Vapor Talk store has some http://www.vaportalkstore.com/products/Blank-Cartomizers-Revolution-%28KR808%29.html

I am so glad you found a good vendor for your tastes! Right now I am battling with a vendor to get replacement 510 batts, i won't say who just yet. Anyway, I kinda knew that I would have some trouble getting juices I liked, so I decided to do the DIY route, so if anything went wrong, it would be in a small batch and I wouldn't be wasting much juice or money. Congrats again. I will prolly go check on them now too.

Sharon beat me to it but I have been buying nic from Freedom smokes for a year now. Quality is very good and reliable and they run out promos like the one Sharon referenced that make it a good buy too. I have purchased 450ml from them so far over 4 orders and they are very consistent. I wouldn't buy from anyone else.

OMG Loving the Rice Crispity Treat flavor so far... Can't wait to try the other flavors i have plus the free sample they sent. This place will be getting more orders from me and i can say that with only trying 1 flavor so far. I've never tried a juice that was this spot on with flavor.

I just got some from My Freedom Smokes. 35% off unflavored nic. Use coupon code "35off" without the quotes.

I doubt that's going to be an issue with the Pro Vari to be honest. Thought it does have a lot of built in features so does a calculator. How often do those go out One thing to note about the Joker, if it's out of warranty Vaprlife will repair it for 30 bucks. Not sure what Pro Vape charges.

I've used both and hands down prefer the Pro Vari. The Joker isn't a bad device per say (though my Joker died quickly) but the features and on the fly voltage changes on the Pro Vari make it worth it. It's built VERY well (I've dropped it more times than I can count) and it works perfect. No issues at all. It also comes with a 1 year warranty standard. I hear the few that have had issues, had their units fixed promptly. You might have to save a little but it's worth it. The pictures also don't do it much justice. EDIT: I checked Vaprlifes website and the Joker only comes with a 3 month warranty.

I hear ya Bubba!!!

I'm loving the Snickerdoodle and Vanilla Cupcakes so far.... Both of them of an amazing throat hit.. flavor and vapor production. These juices are just awesome from what I've tried so far... I'm definitely making more orders from them.

I just got this email from CASAA. I cut and pasted it below in it's entirety. ********************************************************************************* CASAA members, Here is a copy of the CASAA follow-up letter sent to all of the representatives on the Utah House Business and Labor Committee. Elaine Keller and Kristin Noll-Marsh drafted this letter yesterday and sent it out last night. Personally, I think that the letter is brilliant. As many of you may or may not know, Rep. Ray (the sponsor of HB 170) has vowed to attempt to reintroduce this bill. If you would like to write a letter or make a phone call, go to the CASAA UT Call to Action page for talking points and contact information. It is also worth noting that, unlike many other states, the UT legislators have requested that we send correspondence via e-mail. I also want to take this opportunity to thank Jacinda Ross, Aaron Frazier, Julie Woessner, Treece Clewell, Greg Conley, Elaine Keller and Kristin Noll-Marsh for all of their hard work in Utah. But, we are not out of the woods yet as long as Rep. Ray is still on the war path. Keep up the good work everyone. Sincerely, Ron WardCASAA Director Dear Representative:The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-free Alternatives Association (CASAA) sincerely thanks you for voting AGAINST H.B. 170 - Tobacco and Nicotine Product Amendments. We request that the members who voted FOR the proposal reconsider their opinion about smoke-free products, based on correcting the confusion introduced during the February 25 public testimony. Many of those who testified about health risks were referring to the effects of cigarettes and smoking. However, H.B. 170 concerned smoke-free products that many smokers have been able to use as a replacement for smoking. If smokers who cannot or will not quit were provided with truthful information-that switching to a smoke-free product could reduce their risks of smoking-related disease by up to 99%--many, many lives could be saved. The 2009 Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act directed the FDA to establish requirements for identifying "reduced exposure" and "modified risk" tobacco products. Any tobacco product that is not combusted reduces exposure to the tar, carbon monoxide, particulates, and thousands of chemicals found in smoke. "Modified risk" products will need to demonstrate that they reduce harm or the risk of tobacco-related disease.Amy Sands testified: "These are cancer-causing, toxic products. There's no doubt - all sorts of scientific research to prove that smokeless tobacco products like these addict and they kill."Ms. Sands may be confused by older epidemiological studies on products that delivered higher quantities of harmful substances than current versions of these products. Nevertheless, even those earlier products eliminated the lung disease that is triggered by inhaling smoke. They also carried lower risks of cardiovascular disease and cancer than smoking.While there is zero scientific evidence that modern smokeless tobacco products cause cancer or kill the user in any other manner, there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Snus, a moist powder tobacco product, was developed in Sweden for the express purpose of reducing the health risks faced by smokers. Snus is processed to deliver lower concentrations of Tobacco-specific Nitrosamines (TSNAs) than traditional smokeless tobacco products. Foulds, Ranstrom, Burke, and Fagerstrom reviewed the evidence on the effects of snus on smoking and health in Sweden. They concluded, "It is dependence forming, but does not appear to cause cancer or respiratory diseases."Foulds, et al. Effect of smokeless tobacco (snus) on smoking and public health in Sweden. Tobacco Control 2003;12:349-359. http://www.tobaccoprogram.org/pdf/TC12349.pdf Lee and Hamling reviewed 89 studies on cancer risk of smokeless tobacco and concluded, "Risk from modern products is much less than for smoking."Lee, et al. Systematic review of the relation between smokeless tobacco and cancer in Europe and North America. BMC Medicine 2009, 7:36. http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7015/7/36 Peter Lee's most recent review of the evidence concludes: "Using snus is clearly much safer than smoking. While smoking substantially increases the risk of cancer and cardiovascular diseases, any increase from snus use is undemonstrated, and if it exists is probably about 1% of that from smoking."Lee, PN. Summary of the epidemiological evidence relating snus to health. Regul Toxicol Pharmacol. 2010 Dec 14. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21163315Electronic cigarettes are relatively new products; however, they have been available since 2003. There have been no deaths and no reports of any serious adverse events associated with electronic cigarettes anywhere in the world. Surveys show that over 90% of users report that their health has improved.Heavner, et al. Electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes) as potential tobacco harm reduction products: Results of an online survey of ecigarette users. Tobacco Harm Reduction 2010 Yearbook. http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/wpapers/011v1.pdf The dissolvable tobacco products are even newer, so there is no published research on product safety. However, given the fact that the products are not smoked and that they contain levels of carcinogens on par with pharmaceutical nicotine products, it is most likely that their safety profile will be similar that of snus and electronic cigarettes. Representative Ray stated, "We know that one third of kids who start using these are going to die at some point in their life from the use of tobacco." This statistic refers to smoking, not to the use of modern smokeless tobacco products. Source: CDC, "Projected Smoking-Related Deaths Among Youth - United States," MMWR, 45(44), November 8, 1996. Utah PTA Health Commissioner Liz Zentner commented about electronic cigarettes, "The problem is that a lethal dose of nicotine for children is 10 mg and one of those cartridges contains 500 to over 1000 mg."This is false. Cartridges may contain nicotine that has been purified (pharmaceutical grade), but the content is not "pure nicotine." A cartridge contains no more than one gram (1000 mg) of a liquid solution of water, propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerin, flavoring, and (optionally) nicotine. The "high dose" cartridges typically contain less than 2% of actual nicotine (20 mg) and the solution is soaked into an absorbent material, which would make it nearly impossible for a child to "drink" from the cartridge.More than one speaker mentioned accidental poisoning of children by tobacco products. Given the fact that over 70% of tobacco product poisonings are caused by eating cigarettes, butts, and cigars, it does not appear that banning flavored smokeless tobaccos would have solved the already existing issue of accidental ingestion. Not only would HB 170 have NOT solved that problem, it would have practically ensured that many children would remain exposed to second-hand smoke as well as to cigarettes, butts, and cigars, because smoking relatives would have been denied access to a variety of acceptable smoke-free alternative. Additionally, 1,307 poisonings were caused by pharmaceutical nicotine products, yet there is no effort to ban the sale of the Mint, Fresh Mint, Cinnamon Surge, Cherry, White Ice, and Fruit Chill flavors of Nicorette products. The Nicorette lozenges look, smell, and taste much more like candy than the flavored dissolvable tobacco orbs. http://www.aapcc.org/dnn/Portals/0/correctedannualreport.pdfCASAA shares the concern for the safety of children. Parents should always keep any product that contains nicotine-including FDA-approved products such as patches, lozenges, and gum-out of the reach of pets and children. CASAA strongly supports prohibiting the sale of these adult products to underage youth and encourages regulating packaging and advertising to reduce potential accidents.There is no evidence that adding flavorings to tobacco products induces children to start smoking. Conrad, Flay, and Hill reviewed 27 studies regarding onset of cigarette smoking. Major factors that govern initiation of smoking include low socioeconomic states, peer and school bonding, parental example, and peer smoking approval.Conrad, et al. "Why children start smoking cigarettes: predictors of onset. " Br J Addict. 1992 Dec;87(12):1711-24. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1490085 There is also no evidence that kids tend to start with smokeless tobacco products and "graduate" to smoking. If smoke-free products are a gateway, the gate swings away from smoking. Ranstrom and Foulds found, "Among men who used snus as a single aid, 66% succeeded in quitting completely, as compared with 47% of those using nicotine gum (OR 2.2, 95% CI 1.3 to 3.7) or 32% for those using the nicotine patch (OR 4.2, 95% CI 2.1 to 8.6). Women using snus as an aid were also significantly more likely to quit smoking successfully than those using nicotine patches or gum."Ramström, et al. "Role of snus in initiation and cessation of tobacco smoking in Sweden." Tobacco Control 15:210-214. http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/15/3/210.abstract The same thing is true of electronic cigarettes. Smokers are switching to electronic cigarettes, not vice versa. Success rates for achieving complete abstinence from smoking range as high as 80%. Those users who enjoy pleasant flavors soon lose their taste for smoking and have no urges to smoke. Claims that adult smokers would not want these flavors are based on mistaken assumption and not actual research. Surveys have shown that thousands of middle-aged users find the non-tobacco flavors to be a key factor for successfully substituting electronic cigarettes for smoking.Recent studies show that smoking quit rates have stalled and start rates are again increasing in youth. Many of these tobacco users may choose smokeless products over smoking if given accurate information about the relative risks. If HB 170 had succeeded in removing or banning low-risk smokeless tobacco products, it would have forced new and existing users to purchase only the most hazardous products available on the market. Given the enormous health risks of smoking, is it ethical to create barriers to products that carry very low disease risks and are highly acceptable replacements for smoking?If you have any questions or concerns about smokeless alternatives please do not hesitate to contact us. We would be happy to provide you with additional scientific research reports which support the urgent need to not only keep these smokeless products available to adult tobacco users, but to also design tobacco regulation to educate and encourage smokers to switch to reduced harm alternatives.Sincerely,Yolanda Villa, Esq.CASAA Legal Director585-267-5458 yvilla@gmail.com Theresa A. Whitt, MDCASAA Medical Director325-370-9868 theresa.whitt@yahoo.com

That's sooo awesome for you to offer. I should be able to make it thru till it gets here. RY4 is better than nothing. Just not my fav flavor. Really though, thanks for the offer!!!

If you are in the Detroit metro area, I could meet you at a Starbucks and give you some liquid tomorrow. I have a bunch of stuff I don't like that you might like, or heck, I could even part with some of my great Vapor Talk liquids for a Michigander in need. Let me know. Vape on!

Great Tip! Oh just talk to your hubby about it. You just might be able to finagle him into thinking it was his idea! LOL

I am having the same problem with my tornado e-Go. it is very hard to vape out of it....

i have gotten in the habit of unscrewing the battery before bed, and on occasion in my car but for the most part im with you, im using it too much to keep unscrewing the battery, as for a shut off, i dont know lol, im the newbie

WHAT!!??MODS????? Darn it. I don't have any of those yet! I haven't even considered them. I'm sooooo behind. I must not be prepared for the Vapor apocalypse. The end must be near. NO, I'm not prepared. Where do you even begin with those? Must buy more stuff now.

I have heard urban legends of eGo buttons sticking, but I have never experienced it.

Ya, eGo batteries are good. I've had my original 650mAh for almost 6 months now. The other one in my starter set lasted a while too. 4 months I think. I also have a 900mAh one I use now. Keeping batteries in rotation helps. And charging "full" after each time they blink, needing recharged. (Charge full to dead each time.) Never had a button stick. So far anyway. I hear it happens once in a while. The plastic buttons are covers for the circuit board switch inside, and that switch is really tiny. The eGo's hold a charge for a long time so they work pretty good!

thank you Uma, i was under the impression that the eGo didnt require that, but i will do that before bed from now on, cant do it in the day because it seems to be a new toy for me and i can seem to put it down just yet lol... bad bad, i think im playing with it far too much lol

If you no longer smoke analogs and so don't smell like a dirty ashtray there may be more opportunities to find out

Some of you may have them some of you may not, but I do. A Life Insurance Policy. It's good to have, you always want to make sure your loved ones are well taken care of after your gone. So anyway on to why I started this topic, I was sitting down with an agent the other day adding a new type of life insurance. If anyone here has ever done this, you well know that they ask you quite a few medical questions, (to see how high risk you are I'm sure) One of the questions for this policy was "do you use tobacco..." Of course I had to stop for a second and say "well...no. BUT I do use nicotine, well actually an electronic cigarette" The insurance lady of course didn't know what the heck I was talking about. I explained to her how they worked. Her first response was "oh so it's like hookah" I don't know why, but everyone I talk to who has never heard of an ecig compares it to hookah. Well long story short, there is an option for "member uses any device that delivers nicotine" which of course was me. Because of this I have to pay a MUCH higher premium, in fact the same premium that a smoker does. How much does that suck? So even though we've all quite and started on ecigs, we STILL have to pay far more due to our little nicotine problem. So has anyone else experienced this? Do you think there is a way to fight it? Do you agree with it? Thoughts please...

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Hi Chris, Have some questions I would like to discuss over the phone. How do I reach you