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  1. Greetings All! (sorry, that was to be "Who knew there WAS fda drama..." I am brand new to the forum, and brand new to ecigs (and in love btw). I wanted to share my thoughts, my 2 cents... well maybe 5 cents. I come to you from the land of autism and vaccine controversy --let me say up front I refuse to discuss that here, here is not the place to tell me my opinions are wrong, this is not the place to debate it. I just want to give you some background on my beef with the FDA and other gov't "regulatory" bodies. There are lots of parents just like me who saw vaccine damage in our kids. We aren't dumb, we aren't crazy fringe people. Most of us have clinical and lab evidence on our sides along with biological plausibility. Vaccines carry risk, in our country we choose the "herd immunity" method, and even vaccine manufactures will acknowledge that sometimes people take one for the herd. B/c of this we fight... the CDC, the FDA, big Pharma, etc. We want safer products, true informed consent, and a safer vaccine schedule/program. Are we asking for too much. Apparently so. I was surprised to learn that the FDA was trying to ban ecigs, but only for about 1 nanosecond. Most of you are hitting the nail on the head. Money rules. Who stands to lose? Tobacco Companies for one. THAT is a HUGE lobby in Washington... Big Pharma... probably the biggest lobby! --As a smoker I don't want a patch or gum, I want something to put in my mouth and drag on. I am not even a big nicotine addict, heck, for my refills I ordered zero nicotine liquids. For me it was the hand to mouth habit. So, bye bye gum and patches and Chantix and Zyban. Let's not forget the taxes on cigarettes that are paying for children health care in every single state. (more on that in a minute) And of course, all the politicians take contributions from Tobacco and Pharma, and those directly in their pockets. This is a tough group to go against. And right now, the ecig community is SMALL. --comparatively small. So the FDA is trying to strike RIGHT NOW while, essentially, no one is looking. But in the end, ecigs WILL WIN. 1. Vaccines are the sacred cow, I am not sure we will ever "win" --too many see them as essential and safe and necessary for survival. The vaccine battle that I fight will go on for decades. 2. Everyone knows cigarettes are HORRIBLE for you. They are "death hasteners" ANY product seen as a "safer" (not SAFE, safER) alternative will win out in the court of public opinion. (Though, as far as I am concerned these are safe) Ecig users MUST start educating all their family and friends and people we come into contact with about ecigs --Hell, I suppose I should get with the rest of you and STOP calling them "e cigs" and call them vaping devices. --like I said, the FDA is moving quickly now b/c they don't think that enough people CARE!! Make sure they do! b/c the first thing my mom said when I told her about this was, "Of course they want to ban them, it's all about the money." The public at large needs to be educated. Start SHAMING them. Ask them, "Why do you want me to stop breathing in water vapor and go back to burning cigarettes?" Frame the question to point out how ridiculous they are being! educate, educate, educate. I think this issue will hit its tipping point pretty quickly the more that everyone, smokers and non smokers understand just HOW this product compares to regular cigs... CAN someone make a comparison chart? List the % of "toxins" found in ecigs versus regular cigs? b/c that would be a hilariously lop-sided chart. I could go on and on, but perhaps more of my thoughts and opinions will come out in the replies, so I will stop, b/c I am the queen of rambling, BUT... I wanted to point out something that made me laugh --the whole anti-freeze thing... Did you know that Antifreeze is in vaccines? Diethylene Glycol is in some childhood vaccines. Along with many other toxic substances and heavy metals. I will keep this little nugget close to my heart and be sure to bring it up the next time I am telling off someone all up in my face about vaccines --oh and my thought on taxes. I do think these should be regulated, to an extent --but I wonder about the "sin" taxes. If the FDA regulates this as a nicotine/tobacco product are they going to TAX the hell out of it... Will they find a reason to tax water vapor?
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  2. Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports: All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have hidden on or in your body. The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth. This would be a win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial profiling and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials. This is so simple. I can see it now: you're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers we now have a seat available on flight number..." Hey this isn't my idea -- a friend sent it to me.
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  3. I find I lose the ability to tastes flavors the more I vape during the day. If I have vaped a lot during the day, I find my tongue is almost numb to flavors, unless its a good strong flavor.
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